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Re: Let this thread die!

Postby ThingerDudes » Thu Jul 06, 2017 4:06 pm

illegal shitposting is an epidemic, but the problem is not the shitposting itself, but rather the poor socioeconomic conditions and the lack of a social net to accommodate for the conditions that lead people to shitposting.

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Re: Let this thread die!

Postby assdef » Thu Jul 06, 2017 9:12 pm

So what you're saying is, there wouldn't be so much shitposting if we raised the minimum wage?
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Re: Let this thread die!

Postby atomtengeralattjaro » Fri Jul 07, 2017 9:49 am

feel free to raise the minimum wage, just not in my back yard!!
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Re: Let this thread die!

Postby assdef » Sat Jul 08, 2017 11:19 pm

Damn you NIMBY!
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Re: Let this thread die!

Postby atomtengeralattjaro » Sun Jul 09, 2017 4:39 am

Get off my backyard lawn! An old, bearded man waving his index finger at you while slightly shaking his cane and muttering something.
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Re: Let this thread die!

Postby Froggychum » Sun Jul 09, 2017 2:09 pm

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Re: Let this thread die!

Postby ThingerDudes » Tue Jul 11, 2017 1:56 pm

Funnily enough the plan around here is to raise the minimum wage from $11.40 to $15 over the next year and a half. Pretty sure this is a ploy for votes but still, I'm hoping it turns out good.
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Re: Let this thread die!

Postby assdef » Tue Jul 11, 2017 6:37 pm

There is a little mixed data on the impact minimum wage has on the economy. I read an article recently about the Seattle minimum wage, and how it has helped raise average workers wages but also hasn't helped low wage earners at the same time. Other research shows it actually helps the economy by increasing the spending ability of consumers. To your point, I think it's more political than anything. "Vote for me, fools, and I'll get you a raise at work!"
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Re: Let this thread die!

Postby atomtengeralattjaro » Wed Jul 12, 2017 7:28 am

I hope you realize how much money $11.40 per hour is. Anywhere with a better cost of living. You don't have to live in a remote village in India to live very comfortably on that kind of money.

But that's beside the point.

What does it matter if it's a political ploy or not, if it actually helps people and probably the economy? Are you suggesting such a move would be undone after the next elections?
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Re: Let this thread die!

Postby ThingerDudes » Wed Jul 12, 2017 10:06 am

Personally I think the issue is mostly about wage not matching up to increase in cost of living, especially since the housing market went crazy over the last 5 years or so. (actually longer, but it's actually gone really unaffordable for most everybody in that time)

And also about people not being able to find work on a full time basis, which meant that businesses could get away with not providing a lot of benefits that full-timers get (e.g. severance pay, dental/vision care, etc)

I think if the whole thing is primarily motivated by getting votes, rather than improving people's quality of life, it doesn't speak well for the kind of moves the current government will make in the future. The timeline proposed also seems very hasty, which is a little concerning about how much thought was actually put into this. tbh I'd feel a lot better if the current provincial government's track record wasn't so bad.

And $11.40 CAD/h isn't that much for Toronto/GTA, mostly because of the increase in housing costs, and I don't think most people making minimum wage are working full time hours.
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Re: Let this thread die!

Postby Froggychum » Wed Jul 12, 2017 1:21 pm

toronto is expensiveeeee

also so is montreal, and ottawa... i think.


IDK But houses are waaay too much money... so are apartments, so are food... everything is absolute garbage and suicide is the only way out

i mean the world is ruined, and there is now ay out of the spiralling descent that will elad to the end of human life.... the economy will crash, governments will fall to anarchy, then the new currency will be the pure fact of living.... families will eat their youngest for fun, and people will burn down towers because they have no soul.....



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Re: Let this thread die!

Postby assdef » Sat Jul 15, 2017 10:31 am

So the fascinating thing about the housing market is that it has only changed dramatically in urban areas. The prevailing theory is that as baby boomers are getting to a retirement age they are selling houses in suburban areas and moving to urban areas. Since demand in urban areas is also driven by a younger demographic ("millennials"), the result is a surge in housing pricing in cities like Toronto. But if you look in more suburban areas, prices have remained steady or actually have gone down in some instances.

In addition to the demand spike, I think we've also talked about the housing supply deficit in many urban areas that resulted from NIMBY - "Not In MY Back Yard" - this concept that people favor additional urban housing, just not near where they live because they don't want their particular neighborhood to change. An ironic problem born out of liberal elitism. You might argue this is part of the reason Donald Trump was elected President of the United States.

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Re: Let this thread die!

Postby Froggychum » Sat Jul 15, 2017 3:46 pm

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